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Comment author: [deleted] 19 October 2011 04:36:47PM 2 points [-]

Perhaps because I am a high school student? I work in a lab in my free time :) This wasn't supposed to be an essay, though. I probably wasn't clear enough, but I was just trying to raise points for discussion. |-| My point is that most people don't even try to think deeply about anything. This is especially true of my peers in school. If you guys don't like my method, what do you suggest to do? It's not that easy to convince average (lazy!) teens to try to think, in any sense of the word. Even if I told them to read this site, they wouldn't have the passion to do it (because classes don't involve thinking per se as much as memorizing, so to them it would be useless), and if they were somehow forced to read Lesswrong, they might not try to remember the concepts and apply them in outside cases.

Comment author: lessdazed 19 October 2011 05:30:10PM *  0 points [-]

I was just trying to raise points for discussion...If you guys don't like my method, what do you suggest to do?

Hold off on proposing solutions during the first stages of discussion.

It's not that easy to convince average (lazy!) teens to try to think

I disagree.

They were talking about the Lottery. Winston looked back when he had gone thirty metres. They were still arguing, with vivid passionate faces. The Lottery, with its weekly payout of enormous prizes, was the one public event to which the proles paid serious attention. It was probable that there were some millions of proles for whom the Lottery was the principal if not the only reason for remaining alive. It was their delight, their folly, their anodyne, their intellectual stimulant. Where the Lottery was concerned, even people who could barely read and write seemed capable of intricate calculations and staggering feats of memory. There was a whole tribe of men who made a living simply by selling systems, forecasts and lucky amulets.

--George Orwell, 1984

Comment author: Jack 19 October 2011 07:00:59PM 8 points [-]

Count be wrong, they fuck you up.

Kid in The Wire when asked how he could keep count of how many vials of crack were left in the stash but couldn't solve the word problem in his math homework.

Comment author: lessdazed 19 October 2011 08:01:14PM *  5 points [-]

Fantastic! In that case, The Simple Truth is n words longer than necessary, where n is the number of words in it minus seven.