Swimmy comments on Trouble with Bayes Theorem? (The actual math is confusing) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TheatreAddict 25 September 2011 05:08:39AM 0 points [-]

Thanks. I'm pretty sure I understand now. Although I'm not sure why I get the correct answer when I'm working with the actual numbers and not percentages when I do the math wrong.

But when I do the math like you wrote, I get the right answer for the precentages. So I get that part. But aren't I ignoring the base rate in the actual numbers one? Or no?

Comment author: Swimmy 25 September 2011 05:14:02AM *  4 points [-]

You're not. Remember, you're not taking 80 of the 10,000 women in the population. You're only taking 80 of the 100 women with breast cancer. Likewise, it's not 9.6% of all the women, it's 9.6% of the women who don't have breast cancer, or 950/9900. The wording of the problem already took the base rates into count, so when you're plugging the real numbers in, you are automatically taking the base rates into account. By giving you 80/100 and 950/9900, Eliezer already did the division for you.

Comment author: TheatreAddict 25 September 2011 05:17:06AM 1 point [-]

....Oh.

Well, thanks Owen, Swimmy. I now understand Bayes Theorem significantly more than I did a half hour ago. :)