Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Formalizing Newcomb's - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 07 April 2009 01:03:58AM 4 points [-]

Some authors define "Newcomblike problem" as one that brings evidential and decision theory into conflict, which this does.

Comment author: MBlume 07 April 2009 01:23:35AM *  2 points [-]

So... in Newcomb's problem, evidential says one-box, causal says two-box, causal clearly fails.

In Chocolate problem, evidential says avoid chocolate, causal says eat the chocolate, evidential clearly fails.

Thus neither theory is adequate.

Is that right?

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 07 April 2009 10:33:48AM 0 points [-]

I assume it's a typo: evidential vs. causal decision theories.

Evidential decision theory wins for the wrong reasons, and causal decision theory just fails.

Comment author: MBlume 07 April 2009 07:20:11PM 1 point [-]

But evidential actually tells you not to eat the chocolate? That's a pretty spectacular failure mode -- it seems like it could be extended to not taking your loved ones to the hospital because people tend to die there.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 07 April 2009 07:31:18PM *  2 points [-]

Yeah, that was awkwardly worded, I was only referring to Newcomb.