thomblake comments on Formalizing Newcomb's - Less Wrong

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Comment author: thomblake 07 April 2009 02:46:59PM 4 points [-]

Eliezer,

If what you have is good enough for a PhD thesis, you should just publish the thing as a book and then apply for a PhD based on prior work. On the other hand, there are plenty of schools with pure research degrees that will let you write a PhD without coursework (mostly in UK) but they won't likely let you in without a degree or some really impressive alternative credentials. But then, you probably have the latter.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 July 2009 11:01:57PM 3 points [-]

All universities that I know of only grant PhDs based on prior work to their own previous students who've already taken a Masters there. If there is any university that just grants PhDs for sufficiently good prior work, do let me know.

Comment author: Kevin 20 July 2009 07:25:29AM 3 points [-]

For a certain definition of sufficiently good prior work, universities will grant PhDs. When I was in high school, I took a summer program at CMU and the professor Steven Rudich said that if we were to prove P=NP or P!=NP or prove it undecidable or whatever, that would be good for an instant PhD from CMU. I'm pretty sure the problem he referred to was P/NP, but it's been a while and it may have been another Millennium Problem.

So if you happen to have a proof for P/NP sitting around, let me know and I'll introduce you to Dr. Rudich.

Comment author: thomblake 19 July 2009 11:25:19PM 0 points [-]

Indeed. I'd thought De Montfort offered a PhD based on prior work, but can't seem to find a reference for it. I've also heard that the University of Luton (which would now be the University of Bedfordshire) would do them. However in either case, you'd likely need at least a bachelor's degree, so that seems like a dead end.

But maybe you can do something really impressive and get one of those 'honorary' doctorates. I hear they're as good as real ones.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 July 2009 12:22:46AM 0 points [-]

Presumably the last line is sarcasm, but it's hard to tell over the Internet.

Comment author: thomblake 20 July 2009 12:25:46AM 1 point [-]

No, I was being serious. I'm pretty sure if you, say, do something Nobel Prize-worthy, someone will hop to and give you an honorary doctorate, and nobody will deny you've earned it.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 July 2009 01:39:22AM 3 points [-]

Honorary doctorates are routinely handed out to random foreign dignitaries or people who donate money to colleges, and do not entitle the bearer to be called "Dr."

Kurzweil has 16 honorary doctorates plus the National Medal of Technology and he still gets written up as "Mr. Kurzweil".

Comment author: David_Gerard 22 February 2011 12:03:28PM *  1 point [-]

Honorary doctorates are routinely handed out to random foreign dignitaries or people who donate money to colleges, and do not entitle the bearer to be called "Dr."

I wish. I'm thinking of a friend's boss, a private school headmaster, who insists on waving around his honorary doctorate as "Dr. [name]". The friend, who was teaching there, has an actual proper sweat of the brain Ph.D, and he insisted she should be addressed as "Mrs. [name]". WHAT.

Comment author: thomblake 20 July 2009 01:41:53AM 1 point [-]

Good point. At any rate, I'll keep an eye out for any doctorates by prior work from accredited schools and drop you a line.

Comment author: gwern 08 April 2009 12:19:48AM 1 point [-]

thom: you're just wasting time suggesting this. It's been brought up on SL4 multiple times, and the people arguing like you have been ineffective each time.