pedanterrific comments on Don't ban chimp testing - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pedanterrific 04 October 2011 03:28:43AM *  1 point [-]

I learned something new in the process of finding you a bit weird and kooky, and thereby no longer do. So, upvoted.

(I wasn't sure if beetles even had brains, which seemed somehow relevant to their moral standing, so I looked it up- and what do you know, nociception has been demonstrated in insects.)

(And beetles do have brains. Sort of.)

Comment author: [deleted] 04 October 2011 03:35:58AM 0 points [-]

Yeah, insects have brains. And pain. Many have some degree of personality differentiation, even if the space of possible variance is pretty narrow compared to humans. I certainly can't prevent most of the insects of the world from experiencing what is, to them, a hideously painful death (and indeed, have sometimes hastened that process for crickets when feeding them to pet mantises), but when I see a little dermestid beetle crawling around where it'll certainly be hit by a car, my impulse is to save it. To the extent I'm interested in justifying that, it's that I can make a difference here and now for this organism, and want to do so.

Comment author: pedanterrific 04 October 2011 04:07:45AM 3 points [-]

Many have some degree of personality differentiation, even if the space of possible variance is pretty narrow compared to humans.

Me, internally: No way that's true. But, well, just in case...

(five minutes of googling)

I'm learning all sorts of new stuff today!

To the extent I'm interested in justifying that, it's that I can make a difference here and now for this organism, and want to do so.

That sounds like a perfectly valid reason to me.