DanielLC comments on Rationality Quotes October 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DSimon 02 October 2011 05:51:50AM *  26 points [-]

T-Rex: If I lived in the past I'd have different beliefs, because I'd have nobody modern around to teach me anything else!

FACT.

And I find it really unlikely that I would come up with all our modern good stuff on my own, running around saying "You guys! Democracy is pretty okay. Also, women are equal to men, and racism? Kind of a dick move." If I was raised by racist and sexist parents in the middle of a racist and sexist society, I'm pretty certain I'd be racist and sexist! I'm only as enlightened as I am today because I've stood on the shoulders of giants.

Right. So that raises the question: Is everyone from that period in Hell, or is Heaven overwhelmingly populated by racists?

-- T-Rex, Dinosaur Comics

Comment author: DanielLC 03 October 2011 01:08:07AM 10 points [-]

I think the obvious answer would be that Heaven is overwhelmingly populated by ex-racists. Once they get there, they'd have people around to teach them better stuff.

Comment author: DSimon 03 October 2011 02:30:45AM *  4 points [-]

Who would teach them? The more severe racists from periods even further back?

Comment author: Alicorn 03 October 2011 04:05:16AM 7 points [-]

Maybe the dead of other races, provably ensouled and with barriers to communication magically removed.

Comment author: falenas108 03 October 2011 04:09:42AM 5 points [-]

I think the assumption is that divine beings would be there.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 October 2011 07:15:25AM 2 points [-]

Are you assuming people from the past are always more racist for any given time period?

Comment author: DSimon 04 October 2011 03:18:34AM 1 point [-]

That's a good point, there would be many many exceptions to such a prediction.

So at most, all I can say is that the racists in heaven are unlikely to find much in the way of 20th century ideals until people from the 20th century start dying and showing up there.

Comment author: smk 03 October 2011 04:34:07PM 0 points [-]

Why do they need to be taught? Isn't prejudice one of those human frailties that gets magically cleansed when you go to heaven? I mean, if you believe in that stuff. :)

Comment author: Document 03 October 2011 07:39:00PM 6 points [-]

Above the comic:

<a href="mailto:ryan@qwantz.com?subject=option 3: god updates peoples minds in heaven as good ideas are discovered, thereby robbing them of self. but that's ALSO kind of a dick move">contact</a>