MichaelVassar comments on Rationality Quotes October 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nominull 02 October 2011 03:40:02AM 31 points [-]

I think this is actually a myth. It's appealing, to us who love truth so much, to think that deviating from the path of the truth is deadly and dangerous and leads inevitably to dark side epistemology. But there is a trick to telling lies, such that they only differ from the truth in minor, difficult to verify ways. If you tell elegant lies, they will cling to the surface of the truth like a parasite, and you will be able to do almost anything with them that you could do with the truth. You just have to remember a few extra bits that you changed, and otherwise behave as a normal honest person would, given those few extra bits.

Comment author: MichaelVassar 05 October 2011 02:23:17PM 14 points [-]

Worse, you can simply let people catch you, then get angry with them and bully them into accepting your claims not to have lied out of a mix of imperfect certainty and conflict avoidance. By doing this you condition them to accept the radical form of dominance where they have the authority to tell you what you are morally entitled to believe.

Comment author: Bongo 07 October 2011 09:14:38AM *  2 points [-]

By doing this you condition them to accept the radical form of dominance where they have the authority to tell you what you are morally entitled to believe.

*where you have the authority to tell them (?)

Comment author: MichaelVassar 09 October 2011 02:20:21AM 2 points [-]

Yep. Sorry.