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Comment author: potato 24 October 2011 08:37:18PM 9 points [-]

My faith in the expertise of physicists like Richard Feynman, for instance, permits me to endorse—and, if it comes to it, bet heavily on the truth of—a proposition that I don't understand. So far, my faith is not unlike religious faith, but I am not in the slightest bit motivated to go to my death rather than recant the formulas of physics. Watch: E doesn't equal mc2, it doesn't, it doesn't!

--Dan Dennet: Breaking the Spell

Comment author: khafra 26 October 2011 06:10:42PM 0 points [-]

Eppure si muovo?

Comment author: dlthomas 26 October 2011 06:15:47PM 2 points [-]

According to wikipedia, it's unlikely Galileo actually said this.

Comment author: khafra 26 October 2011 07:19:02PM 5 points [-]

Aside from my abject failure at the Italian language, I think my objection can be sustained. Semmelweis, for instance, was fired for his continued insistence that hand washing by doctors prevented disease; and met his end in a sanitarium. He saved many lives by insisting on hand washing, even though he predated the germ theory of disease, and there was probably something akin to a utilitarian calculation in his giving up his own welfare for that of many others.

So, one does not go to one's death for the truth of the propositions one doesn't understand, but rather for the way the implications of those propositions affect one's terminal values. This brings us much closer to the religious who believe that very bad things happen if they recant their creed.

Comment author: komponisto 26 October 2011 06:37:50PM *  4 points [-]

Indeed, because it's ungrammatical. The phrase that Galileo may (not) have said is:

Eppure si muove

(EDIT: Unless, of course, what was meant was:

Eppure....sì, muovo!

i.e., "And yet....yes, I move!")

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 28 October 2011 02:15:14AM *  1 point [-]

I think that the legend works best as a legend if it's known to be untrue. After all, the point is that whether he said it or not, the earth kept moving.

Comment author: dlthomas 28 October 2011 05:51:49AM 1 point [-]

I'll grant that, for sure.