ArisKatsaris comments on Freewill vs. Determinism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 05 October 2011 06:29:09PM *  6 points [-]

Please read Thou Art Physics

There's no conflict between free will and determinism -- the very opposite, free will becomes possible only in the presence of determinism. If your current self couldn't determine your actions, there wouldn't be any meaningful free will.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 05 October 2011 11:36:34PM *  0 points [-]

On one hand, free will appears to require determinism, for the reasons you give. On the other hand, this interpretation requires a significant re-interpretation of what "free will" means, that is incompatible with what most people think it means. Accepting the determinism-compatible definition of free will probably has non-obvious consequences.

The difficulty of seeing the determinist view of free will, of understanding timeless decision theory, and understanding what an algorithm feels like from the inside, are all basically the same difficulty. They are all non-trivial.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 06 October 2011 01:06:16AM 4 points [-]

On the other hand, this interpretation requires a significant re-interpretation of what "free will" means, that is incompatible with what most people think it means.

I disagree with this. I think most people don't really think about what free will means, but once they think about it they concede that it must mean your personality decides stuff, and NOT that you're necessarily unpredictable.

Comment author: thomblake 05 October 2011 09:27:31PM 0 points [-]

Indeed, that's granted even by advocates of libertarian free will, albeit in a sneaky and one-directional fashion.