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Was this part of a "lets try to kill the minds of the bootcampers and see how they handle it" or did the subject just come up?
Subject came up.
How did the subject come up? I have never ever heard this subject discussed outside of two contexts:
The question under discussion is "What can't we say?"; or
One of the interlocutors feels it's important to take civil rights away from people.
EDIT: To be absolutely clear, I'm certain the second thing is not true of any of the bootcampers, and I'm almost certain that racial IQ differences came up in conversation only as an example of something people don't consider rationally, not as a subject of interest in its own right.
Group differences in average IQ are relevant in discussions regarding whether or not policies and institutions that were successful in some jurisdictions should be recommended in other jurisdictions where the people have different genetic backgrounds. They can also legitimately arise in discussions about the evolution of intelligence.
How well the relevant groups in those discussions match folk notions of race, is another question. Some aspects of our folk racial categories seem obviously silly in this regard-- like how children of one white parent and one black parent are considered black.
I have never seen that happen ever.
It comes up for people considering adopting kids.
Well, since this is the first reference in this thread to "What can't we say?", which of the commenters would you say "feels it's important to take civil rights away from people"?
But seriously, you should get out of the habit of assuming sinister motives of people who disagree with you.
I feel like I've been misunderstood somehow.
Ummm, Eliezer Yudkowsky's post, on which this discussion is based, is about "What can't we say?" ie. why can't we say there are racial differences in IQ.
So this thread doesn't seem to be evidence against Nisan's statement.