Alicorn comments on A few analogies to illustrate key rationality points - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 09 October 2011 05:23:40PM 8 points [-]

I like this post and have upvoted it. But,

What's north of the North Pole?"

strikes me as a fairly cheap linguistic trick - you could deploy it with equal efficacy regardless of whether there can meaningfully be said to be "time" before the Big Bang. Now, the fact that it is a linguistic trick itself illustrates a sort of "ways words can be wrong" meta-point, which could be valuable in unrelated circumstances, but your other analogies are much better.

Comment author: kpreid 10 October 2011 10:49:47AM 21 points [-]

It isn't just a linguistic trick: it is pointing out that there exist ways in which a dimension can end, even if the particular way is nothing like the other.

Comment author: torekp 15 October 2011 07:20:56PM 2 points [-]

Are there any relativistic space-time geometries which would have the beginning of time broadly resembling one pole of a hypersphere? Just wondering how far the analogy could be pushed.

Comment author: Manfred 15 October 2011 08:15:51PM 2 points [-]

Yup.

Comment author: Bound_up 20 May 2015 11:03:57PM *  0 points [-]

I thought the inquiry referred more to what was the cause of the Big Bang than to what was happening across the y-axis of the timeline.

If I'm not mistaken, we don't know yet?

Or have we concluded that the Big Bang is some kind of uncaused event?

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 10 October 2011 08:33:54PM 0 points [-]

Well put. As was the analogy itself; I found it quite helpful personally and it's my favorite part of this article.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 09 October 2011 08:52:57PM 12 points [-]

It still shows that the question isn't necessarily meaningful.