Jack comments on How to understand people better - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jack 12 October 2011 02:25:55AM *  1 point [-]

Yeah. I mean-- usage sometimes differs. I don't want to make this exactly a definition debate. But look at how Vaniver used the word:

Alice saying "nothing is wrong" rather than "let's not talk about it now" is an out-and-out lie. It's not clear that Bob inferring that Alice is repeatedly lying would reflect better on Bob.

That usage suggests to me a meaning of liar that implies deceit (though Vaniver later said he didn't mean to imply that).

I do think it would be a social/linguistic error to respond to weirdness, joking hyperbole, or sarcasm with with "Liar!" or similar variant in a sincere tone.

Comment author: pedanterrific 12 October 2011 05:42:46AM 1 point [-]

I do think it would be a social/linguistic error to respond to weirdness, joking hyperbole, or sarcasm with with "Liar!" or similar variant in a sincere tone.

Generally I prefer "Get thee behind me, Prince of Lies!" or possibly "You should be a statistician!" if I'm feeling particularly vindictive.

But I get your point.