ArisKatsaris comments on [SEQ RERUN] Torture vs. Dust Specks - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 11 October 2011 09:25:31PM *  0 points [-]

no heap is ever formed for anyone of the 3^^^3 people.

That's not one of the guarantees you're given, that a trillion other agents won't be given similar choices. You're not given the guarantee that your dilemma between minute disutility for astronomical numbers, and a single huge disutility will be the only such dilemma anyone will ever have in the history of the universe, and you don't have the guarantee that the decisions of a trillion different agents won't pile up.

Comment author: shminux 11 October 2011 09:37:10PM *  2 points [-]

Well, it looks like we found the root of our disagreement: I take the original problem literally, one blink and THAT'S IT, while you say "you don't have the guarantee that the decisions of a trillion different agents won't pile up".

My version has an obvious solution (no torture), while yours has to be analyzed in detail for every possible potential pile up, and the impact has to be carefully calculated based on its probability, the number of people involved, and any other conceivable and inconceivable (i.e. at the probability level of 1/3^^^3) factors.

Until and unless there is a compelling evidence of an inevitable pile-up, I pick the no-torture solution. Feel free to prove that in a large chunk (>50%?) of all the impossible possible worlds the pile-up happens, and I will be happy to reevaluate my answer.