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17 Post author: atucker 23 October 2011 03:06AM

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Comment author: atucker 25 October 2011 05:38:14PM 3 points [-]

I'm starting to think that not splitting up the word consciousness was a big mistake. I think that there are lots of very qualia-laden Animals that it's very mean to hurt, but that said Animals probably wouldn't talk about being conscious for reasons other than the fact that they don't talk.

Conscious, but not self-aware. Humans do more things related to consciousness, which I'm going to talk about later.

Comment author: JenniferRM 25 October 2011 06:24:16PM *  1 point [-]

I really like the term "qualia-laden" for picking out a specific property of an agent. Did you make that up?

My current guess is that with "human self-awareness" you're trying to talk about whatever it is that the mirror test aims to measure. My guess would be that in the biological world all mirror-test-passers are qualia-laden, and that human intelligence (and possible future machine intelligences) do (or will) involve both of these properties but also many other things as well (like symbolic communication, etc). Is mirror-test-passing a helpful term, or does the fact that magpies pass the mirror test mean that it's not what you're trying to talk about?