Prismattic comments on Things you are supposed to like - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 21 October 2011 03:51:54AM 15 points [-]

It is a runaway peacock's-tail phenomenon: Someone made something that stood out in some way, and it got attention; and people learned to like things like that, and so others made things that stood out more in the same way, until we ended up with Alban Berg.

As people learn more about an art form, they can more-easily predict it, and need more and more novelty to keep them interested;

I suspect Methods of Rationality may be the end product of a similar phenomenon with respect to a number of trends in speculative fiction, e.g., of putting in more and more elaborate Xanatos Gambits and more and more subtle pop culture references.

Or as Eliezer put it:

it's hard to beat the Algorithm of Awesome, which works as follows:

First, know the overarching direction in which your fic is going. Then, think of possible events that move in this direction. If they are awesome, add them to the plot. If they are not awesome, leave them out.

Try looking at the above quote while tabooing the word "awesome", or better yet replace it with a word that has a similar meaning to an art movement you aren't involved in e.g., "groovy" for psychedelic, "transgresive" for modern art, etc.

Comment author: pedanterrific 21 October 2011 04:59:16AM 13 points [-]

it's hard to beat the Algorithm of [Applause Light], which works as follows:

First, know the overarching direction in which your fic is going. Then, think of possible events that move in this direction. If they are [applause light], add them to the plot. If they are not [applause light], leave them out.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 October 2011 06:04:47AM 2 points [-]

Clever, but are you implying that a good story is essentially wireheading?

Comment author: pedanterrific 22 October 2011 12:45:45AM 4 points [-]

I wouldn't go quite that far. Maybe affective death spirals are attractors in designspace, though.