Stuart_Armstrong comments on Satisficers want to become maximisers - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 February 2013 12:01:18PM 0 points [-]

That's just a utility maximiser with a bounded utility function.

But this has become a linguistic debate, not a conceputal one. One version of satisficisers (the version I define, which some people intuitively share) will tend to become maximisers. Another version (the bounded utility maximisers that you define) are already maximisers. We both agree on these facts - so what is there to argue about but the linguistics?

Since satisficing is more intuitively that rigorously defined (multiple formal definitions on wikipedia), I don't think there's anything more to dispute?

Comment author: Elithrion 01 February 2013 06:40:43PM 1 point [-]

All right, I agree with that. It does seem like satisficers are (or quickly become) a subclass of maximisers by either definition.

Although I think the way I define them is not equivalent to a generic bounded maximiser. When I think of one of those it's something more like U = paperclips/(|paperclips|+1) than what I wrote (i.e. it still wants to maximize without bound, it's just less interested in low probabilities of high gains), which would behave rather differently. Maybe I just have unusual mental definitions of both, however.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 February 2013 07:44:59PM 1 point [-]

Maybe bounded maximiser vs maximiser with cutoff? With the second case being a special case of the first (for there are many ways to bound a utility).

Comment author: Elithrion 01 February 2013 08:14:43PM 1 point [-]

Yes, that sounds good. I'll try using those terms next time.