pedanterrific comments on HPMoR: What do you think you know? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pedanterrific 23 October 2011 10:44:24PM 2 points [-]

Quirrellmort does not want to kill Harry. If he ever did, he changed his mind while offscreen.

He doesn't want to kill Harry right now. He may intend to kill Harry at some more convenient point in the future - everything we've seen of Quirrell indicates he plans for the long term.

Comment author: James_Blair 24 October 2011 07:44:08PM 1 point [-]

If we take Hermione at face value on Ch43, he has tried to kill Harry by feeding him to a dementor. Although given the failures his more certain methods have had, it's a big leap to assume that he hasn't thought of taking Harry someplace isolated and setting a blowtorch on him. Extra points for a long torturous death.

Comment author: pedanterrific 24 October 2011 07:56:04PM 2 points [-]

he has tried to kill Harry by feeding him to a dementor.

Almost certainly not. Remember, it was Quirrell who drew Flitwick's attention to the dropped wand. It is possible that Quirrell planned for precisely what occurred - Harry temporarily Demented and apparently evil.

it's a big leap to assume that he hasn't thought of taking Harry someplace isolated and setting a blowtorch on him.

Why do people keep assuming Quirrell thinks of Harry as an enemy?

Comment author: James_Blair 24 October 2011 08:58:38PM *  7 points [-]

He drew attention to the wand after Hermione committed herself to going to the cage. Maybe he didn't have to, but that's the sort of cleverness I expect from him. It tricked you, after all.

Why do people keep assuming Quirrell thinks of Harry as an enemy?

I can't speak for people, but Harry is Voldemort's enemy in canon. Until I see some extraordinary evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume that hasn't changed.

Comment author: pedanterrific 24 October 2011 09:49:45PM 2 points [-]

He drew attention to the wand after Hermione committed herself to going to the cage.

...How did I not notice this?!

Comment author: Logos01 24 October 2011 03:17:09PM 0 points [-]

Quirrellmort seems altogether too clever an individual to not have noticed by now that Harry is a Horcrux for him. Which means that he'd want very much to rectify that situation before killing Harry. It'd be a self-destructive act to allow that to happen.

Now, a protege -- one who knew that killing his mentor would be killing himself? -- priceless.

Comment author: Desrtopa 24 October 2011 03:48:16PM 1 point [-]

Do we know that Harry is a horcrux in HPMoR? I'd assign a much lower probability to Quirrelmort making him one by accident than I would for the original Voldemort.

Comment author: pedanterrific 24 October 2011 11:38:07PM 5 points [-]

Conversely, I'd assign a much higher probability of MoR!Quirrell making him one on purpose than canon!Voldemort.

Comment author: jhuffman 24 October 2011 10:05:34PM 0 points [-]

Do we know that Quirrell is Quirrellmort in HPMoR?

Comment author: Desrtopa 24 October 2011 10:13:37PM *  2 points [-]

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Are you asking if we know that Professor Quirrel is Voldemort? Ryvrmre unf nssvezrq gung gung'f gur pnfr. Vs lbh'er nfxvat fbzrguvat ryfr gura V'ir zvfhaqrefgbbq gur dhrfgvba.

(rot13'ed per request.)

Comment author: pedanterrific 24 October 2011 11:37:07PM 2 points [-]

Ah...

You do not need to rot13 anything about HP:MoR or the original Harry Potter series unless you are posting insider information from Eliezer Yudkowsky which is not supposed to be publicly available (which includes public statements by Eliezer that have been retracted).

Comment author: JoshuaZ 24 October 2011 11:37:47PM 0 points [-]

Did he retract this statement? Where did he do that?

Comment author: thomblake 24 October 2011 11:47:27PM *  2 points [-]

ROT13: Vg jnf znqr pyrne va gur nhgube'f abgrf gung Dhveeryy vf Ibyqrzbeg, nsgre Ryvrmre jnf naablrq gung crbcyr qvqa'g frrz gb erpbtavmr gung Dhveeryy jnf fhccbfrq gb or rivy. Vg jnf cbvagrq bhg gb uvz gung gur fgbel vf zhpu orggre vs lbh qba'g xabj gung nurnq bs gvzr, fb ur ergenpgrq gung fgngrzrag naq erfbyirq abg gb rkcyvpvgyl zragvba vg orsber vgf gvzr; vg vf abj pbafvqrerq n fcbvyre.

So the solution for Desrtopa is either ROT13 the above, or remove any mention you may or may not have made that Eliezer may or may not have confirmed or denied something.

Comment author: thomblake 24 October 2011 11:48:50PM 1 point [-]

No, though lots of people act like they know that, some of whom may or may not be the author.