orthonormal comments on Better Disagreement - Less Wrong

70 Post author: lukeprog 24 October 2011 09:13PM

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Comment author: orthonormal 23 October 2011 05:15:09PM 12 points [-]

DH7 does happen between mathematicians now and then. Person A has an idea of a proof for X. Person B could show a problem with Person A's proof (DH6) or an unrelated disproof of X (DH4? DH6?), but the best response is to show A a disproof of X that makes it clear why A's strategy is futile.

This is often done well enough that it doesn't even hurt feelings. But math is kind of a special case.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 23 October 2011 09:11:07PM 7 points [-]

In particular, in math it is clear which arguments are more dubious. DH4 arguments are often perfectly acceptable, as a simple and clear counterexample refutes a complicated argument that could easily have a subtle flaw.

The ability to make simple, irrefutable arguments is tremendously beneficial to sane arguing, for instance because it enables you to use the The Emperor Has No Clothes defense and avoid studying the details of your opponent's argument.

Comment author: GilPanama 23 October 2011 07:08:34PM *  3 points [-]

In this case, I'd even drop my initial thoughts about rudeness. If you can prove that somebody's gone down mathematical blind alley, it's downright polite to do so, since there's no ambiguity about the relevance of the steel man here.