tetsuo55 comments on Let Your Workers Gather Food - Less Wrong

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Comment author: tetsuo55 25 October 2011 01:44:10PM 1 point [-]

Thanks for taking the time to explain that.

That exercise works to some extent is clear, just look at bodybuilders. However i do not see a lot of evidence based work on exercises that find a good balance between health and body damage. You might notice that many bodybuilders no longer look so healthy after their 40's.

I'll keep searching.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 25 October 2011 02:19:15PM 1 point [-]

For what it's worth, Sonnon started out with a genetic disorder that affects his connective tissue. This means he's a lot more careful about recovery than anyone else I've heard of.

Comment author: Swimmer963 27 October 2011 09:43:57AM 0 points [-]

That exercise works to some extent is clear... However i do not see a lot of evidence based work on exercises that find a good balance between health and body damage.

Are you talking about a specific type of high-performance exercise, or exercise in general? If the former, maybe you're right, but I still kinda doubt it. If the latter...yeah, maybe a 40-year-old bodybuilder doesn't look or feel as healthy as a 20-year-old bodybuilder. But I would bet you a lot of money that they are healthier than a 40-year-old who spent those 20 years not exercising.

In general, I think, the direct health benefits of exercise (lower risk of heart disease, lower risk of osteoporosis) happen even with half an hour a day of fairly gentle aerobic exercise. Beyond that, you get what you train for. By that I mean: if you want to be able to run a marathon, you have to practice running long distances fast. If you want to be able to lift 400 pounds, you have to practice lifting heavy weights. The human body adapts to the load expected of it; that's the whole point of exercise.

There are always tradeoffs, of course. Lifting weights is hard on your joints. Running can be too. But I've known plenty of people who are in their 40s, are very fit, and have managed to avoid injuries. (Granted, they were people who had done swimming, cross-country skiing, martial arts, that kind of thing. Not bodybuilding, which might be a bit more 'unbalanced.' Older people do have to be careful to avoid injuries and do take longer to recover than younger people.)

Comment author: tetsuo55 02 November 2011 11:14:38AM 0 points [-]

I guess i would like to see an exercise routine that was designed from the ground up to provide a nice balance of benefits vs injury risk, and then specifically a routine that you can keep doing indefinitely.

But maybe i'm not giving the breakdown of the human body enough weight...

I guess i just want a lifelong exercise plan with easy to follow steps, one that has a lot of evidence behind it that it won't cause early damage to bone, tissue, etc...

Comment author: Swimmer963 02 November 2011 03:14:15PM *  0 points [-]

I'm sure that such routines exist. There are probably books about them. I haven't investigated because I started exercising when I was younger than ten (swim team) and though I haven't always kept up the routine as much as I`d like, my level of fitness has never descended back to start-from-scratch.

Walking and swimming are both low-impact. I know that for swimming specifically, there are numerous 'Masters' clubs that you can join at any level, where the idea is to keep it up indefinitely as opposed to training for a particular race or event.