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49 Post author: lukeprog 26 October 2011 06:52PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 25 October 2011 04:42:42AM *  4 points [-]

Why wait? Just promote this now.

A couple of weeks ago, I drafted a post about making LW more accessible to a lay audience. Despite the help of the LW Public Goods Team, I got discouraged and abandoned it. But because it feels pertinent, here's the end:

As LWers know, most people don't like to hear that their brains aren't perfect engines of reason, or that their intuitions aren't made of magic. But plenty of these same people live in an intellectual comfort zone that overlaps LW just enough to make them relatively easy to persuade, with the right combination of words. How many of them remain unpersuaded because the material on LW is unnecessarily difficult?

Of course, much of the material on LW is difficult because it's just, well, difficult. But that shouldn't stop LWers from striving to make themselves understood by a non-technical audience (and I'm not the first to mention this). The majority of LWers don't come here already very rational. It's just that the learning curve seems geared toward those already capable of making the ascent. If raising the sanity waterline is a priority, then LW has to minimize the cost of participation.

Unless, on some level, it's about having a club, and reading highly leveraged abstract language is the initiation.

Don't get me wrong; I want to join this club. Even now, as I write this, it's hard to not use all the little clubhouse-y words and phrases. I want to signal my membership (and consequently my intelligence). I want to prove my worth to the tribe.

Is plain talk low-status on LW? And if so, is its non-prevalence one big huge example of akrasia?

Comment author: lukeprog 25 October 2011 04:52:08AM *  1 point [-]

Why wait? Just promote this now.

I didn't frame this post in terms of rationality, and I didn't optimize it for front-page quality. But maybe that was a mistake. I'll edit the post a bit right now and put it on the front page in case an editor wants to promote it.

Update: (Slight) editing done. Moved from LessWrong Discussion to LessWrong.