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--Gregory Cochran
Which I would modify to:
Which based on feedback I would modify to:
Just don't believe it. It's a convenient thing to say when the reaction to your accusation happens to be anger. If they don't get angry it must be true also because, um, they knew already and it isn't surprising, etc. Also, if they run away that means they are a witch and if they stay they are a witch.
That is certainly true. Taking such a saying to heart can basically make you just another crank ranting about how this is just like what happened to Galileo.
But it is often useful to remember that making a more moderate statement can actually get you in more trouble, precisely because it seems more believable to someone who's far away from you on the inferential chain. Thinking about it again, I see that the original quote will be more often employed in the first meaning than in this one.
Does anyone have a good quote that captures the spirit I wanted to convey?
Check the rules: "No more than 5 quotes per person per monthly thread, please."
I think you're over 10 quotes already. Better exclude yourself from next month's quotes as well.
Ah thank you I had forgotten about that rule. Up voted.
I know which jobs my mother worked, but that didn't stop bullies using this line.
I would not agree even with the second statement. Do Holocaust survivors fear Holocaust deniers are telling the truth? (or insert some even more offensive and unpopular belief)
Good point.
Better?
No; when reading this I had no idea that you had (apparently) added the modified quote specifically in response to the grandparent, and thus I read the grandparent as an objection to the second version. And the objection stands.
(In fact, the grandparent actually says "I would not agree even with the second statement", so now I'm confused: what did you change?)
Better?
For anyone having trouble following, it is a question as to whether this edit makes things clearer.
To which I would answer (having seen an earlier version): yes, better.
Overall I now, after feedback and doing some thinking, I feel it was ill thought out of me to post this quote here.
Truthfully, I've thought that of a lot of your recent video game quotes.
Hey I didn't start the Sid Meier's Alpha Centuari quote fad!
Just kidding, updating on your feedback, please don't ever hesitate to give it since I value your opinion a bit above the average rationalist.
What about my other posts and quote posts?
None of them have been bad enough to form a cluster in my thoughts like 'those video game quotes are getting annoying'; was there any one in particular?
Note to self: start a Warhammer 40K fad on the next month's thread.
"Success is commemorated, failure merely remembered."
Sadly, my copy of Rogue Trader is back at my mother's house, but "Pain is an illusion of the body, despair an illusion of the mind" springs to mind, even though I haven't looked at the rulebook in years.