Dar_Veter comments on Rationality Quotes November 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 29 November 2011 10:51:38AM *  3 points [-]

"Nobody ever gets that really mad at somebody unless they are telling the truth."

--Gregory Cochran

Which I would modify to:

Nobody ever gets that really mad at somebody unless they think they are telling the truth.

Which based on feedback I would modify to:

"Nobody ever gets that really mad at somebody unless they fear he will be believed."

Comment author: Dar_Veter 29 November 2011 11:44:39AM 3 points [-]

I would not agree even with the second statement. Do Holocaust survivors fear Holocaust deniers are telling the truth? (or insert some even more offensive and unpopular belief)

Comment author: [deleted] 29 November 2011 12:02:02PM *  1 point [-]

Good point.

"Nobody ever gets that really mad at somebody unless they fear he will be believed."

Better?

Comment author: komponisto 29 November 2011 04:40:46PM *  1 point [-]

Better?

No; when reading this I had no idea that you had (apparently) added the modified quote specifically in response to the grandparent, and thus I read the grandparent as an objection to the second version. And the objection stands.

(In fact, the grandparent actually says "I would not agree even with the second statement", so now I'm confused: what did you change?)

Comment author: [deleted] 29 November 2011 05:24:10PM 0 points [-]

Better?

Comment author: dlthomas 29 November 2011 05:28:53PM 1 point [-]

For anyone having trouble following, it is a question as to whether this edit makes things clearer.

To which I would answer (having seen an earlier version): yes, better.