dspeyer comments on 2011 Less Wrong Census / Survey - Less Wrong

77 Post author: Yvain 01 November 2011 06:28PM

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Comment author: saturn 01 November 2011 03:37:22AM 15 points [-]

I think it would be more informative to ask people to take one specific online test, now, and report their score. With everyone taking the same test, even if it's miscalibrated, people could at least see how they compare to other LWers. Asking people to remember a score they were given years ago is just going to produce a ridiculous amount of bias.

Comment author: dspeyer 01 November 2011 05:13:51AM 10 points [-]

I think it would be more informative to ask people to take one specific online test, now, and report their score.

Are there any free, non-spam-causlng, online IQ tests that produce reasonable results (i.e. correlate strongly to standard IQ tests)?

Comment author: taw 02 November 2011 10:33:44AM 1 point [-]

Mensa organizes cheap standardized IQ testing worldwide with many available dates.

I don't care for everything else they're doing, but at least that is a very valuable service to the world.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 01 November 2011 01:09:51PM 0 points [-]

Are there any free, non-spam-causlng, online IQ tests that produce reasonable results (i.e. correlate strongly to standard IQ tests)?

No chance.

To calibrate a serious IQ test, you need to test (1) many (2) randomly selected people in (3) controlled environment; and when the test is ready, you must test your subjects in the same environment.

Online calibration or even online testing fail the condition 3. Conditions 1 and 2 make creating of a test very expensive. This is why only a few serious IQ tests exist. And even those would not be considered valid when administered online.

And there is also huge prior probability that an online IQ test is a scam. So even if they would provide some explanation of how they fulfilled the conditions 1, 2, 3, I still would not trust them.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 01 November 2011 11:28:12PM *  3 points [-]

No chance.

To calibrate a serious IQ test, you need to test (1) many (2) randomly selected people in (3) controlled environment; and when the test is ready, you must test your subjects in the same environment.

If you have a test thus calibrated, you can use it to evaluate tests that can't be calibrated in the same way.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 02 November 2011 07:52:41PM 0 points [-]

Will this evaluation include giving both tests to many randomly selected people and comparing the results?