wedrifid comments on Do the people behind the veil of ignorance vote for "specks"? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 12 November 2011 06:28:50AM *  0 points [-]

Torture does not scale linearly with time. Indeed, I suspect even a simple exponential curve would understate the increase.

Wow. I thought you were going the other way with that one. The fiftieth year of torture is not nearly as damaging as the first.

Comment author: Prismattic 12 November 2011 06:35:44AM 1 point [-]

That is interesting. But note that he was starting with a unit of 1 second of torture. 1 second of waterboarding is not 1/30th as distressing as 30 seconds of waterboarding. And 1 second of Chinese water torture, or the ice room, or simply isolation, is less disutility than dust speck. Actually, the particular case of isolation is one where the 50th year probably is worse than the first year, assuming the victim has not already gone completely bonkers by that point.

Comment author: wedrifid 12 November 2011 07:02:19AM 1 point [-]

assuming the victim has not already gone completely bonkers by that point.

If you have been torturing someone for 49 years and they are not already completely bonkers then you are probably doing something wrong!

Comment author: peter_hurford 12 November 2011 07:26:56AM 0 points [-]

I agree with this, but I have no idea how to accurately discount it, so I decided to go linear and overestimate.

Comment author: wedrifid 12 November 2011 08:00:36AM 0 points [-]

I don't have a better idea. I really don't have enough knowledge about how to torture people at extreme levels over a long period given the possibility of sufficiently advanced technology.