Grognor comments on Existential Risk - Less Wrong

28 Post author: lukeprog 15 November 2011 02:23PM

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Comment author: komponisto 20 November 2011 03:51:59PM *  12 points [-]

Louie, please read my comments again and tell me if you still think your reply makes any sense whatsoever as a response.

Because -- I'm sorry to say -- this represents a total failure of reading comprehension. Quoting myself:

"SIAI" (or, now, "SI")...does not take the definite article.

  • In the same comment:

    Abbrevations differ as to whether they function as names or descriptions: IAS, but the UN. SI(AI) is like the former, not the latter.

  • Here::

The "the" isn't droppable, because it was never part of the name in the first place...the article is a part of ...grammar

Abbreviations are treated separately from the corresponding full names. One doesn't say "the ABC", but one does say "the American Broadcasting Company". Likewise, "SIAI" (not "the SIAI"), but "the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence".

You say:

I personally find "the SIAI" sound ridiculous to me

Guess what: I agree! Quite a while ago, I pointed out that "the SIAI" was a non-native quirk introduced by XiXiDu (and for some reason picked up by certain native speakers). Maybe it was too subtle for some people, but in that comment I was expressing the fact that "the SIAI" sounds completely wrong to me.

I don't understand why this is so complicated. One says "at the Singularity Institute", but also "at SIAI". This is the default English usage. It's what people have been saying all along. There is nothing weird, complex, or freaky going on here. I'm advocating a return to normalcy!

You ask:

Notice a pattern?

The answer is yes: people consistently underestimate the information content of my comments, and often simply fail to read what they say. This drives me frickin' crazy!

Comment author: Grognor 20 November 2011 04:19:55PM 6 points [-]

You have all of my sympathies. What you are saying makes perfect sense (as such, I have nothing to add or take away from it), and I agree with it completely.

That said, I understand why you're getting so hot-blooded. I'm getting hot-blooded over Louie's systematic failure to understand you, and I'm not even the one being misunderstood!

(Keeping in mind, all the while, Wiio's Laws.)

Comment author: thomblake 29 November 2011 05:23:50PM 0 points [-]

upvoted for the link to Wiio's Laws.