AdrienH comments on Drawing Less Wrong: Should You Learn to Draw? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: AdrienH 14 November 2011 06:15:31PM *  1 point [-]

Compared to signing up for a course, how much would I lose by using a book such as Drawing on the right side of the brain or Thinking with a pencil and getting critical input from a friend who is a comic book artist but lacks any education in teaching? Is drawing a field that requires mentorship or can a motivated student get by with a textbook and occasional pointed advice?

Comment author: sixes_and_sevens 14 November 2011 07:44:10PM 2 points [-]

I can only speak from personal experience, but I made enormous improvements on my own with a book in a pretty short period of time. I'm now at the point where I'm looking into joining a tutor-led group, because I think I've made most of the easy gains from pursuing it on my own.

If you're the sort of person who can, for example, hunker down and learn a programming language over a few hours under your own steam, I imagine you can probably do the same with drawing. For me, the experiences are quite similar.

Comment author: kilobug 14 November 2011 08:45:14PM 1 point [-]

Hi Adrien ! Welcome :)

Feel free to introduce yourself on the welcome thread

Comment author: Raemon 14 November 2011 06:35:50PM *  1 point [-]

Short answer: I don't know.

Longer answer: I am actually very interested in seeing how you progress without menthorship (for my own empirical study - I've seen how people respond to an intensive 8 hour seminar, I haven't seen how people improve with 8 hours of their own efforts. Control group would be useful)

I will note that I do not have any education in teaching - I ran this workshop specifically to gain experience in it. If your friend has college level (or equivalent) art training, then e will probably be about as qualified as I am to give you feedback. The question is the value of "occasional feedback" vs "intensive dedicated training."

In the workshop, I gave constant feedback and occasionally demonstrated my own drawing technique. Participants felt that doing so was very helpful, and I believe it was, but I don't know for sure how important it was. (We did notice an effect where shortly after watching me draw, people improved at drawing for a little while, although the effect didn't last indefinitely, presumably as the memory faded and their old habits returned. In the next session I intend to demonstrate once every half hour to reinforce the benefit, and then see if the improvements seem to stick longer.)