kpreid comments on Drawing Less Wrong: Should You Learn to Draw? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: kpreid 14 November 2011 06:20:43PM *  4 points [-]

I would like a (link to a preexisting) brief overview of what the natural-but-wrong and unintuitive-but-right ways to draw are, which you mention but do not describe.

Comment author: Raemon 14 November 2011 06:37:08PM *  2 points [-]

Don't worry, I'm getting there. (I'll provide some links as I get to the relevant info.)

Comment author: Raemon 15 November 2011 09:35:55PM 0 points [-]

I'm actually not sure I can provide links to existing sources for what NOT to do. I've been to enough classes and had enough experience to say confidently that certain habits are bad, and I will be discussing them later on. Were you primarily concerned with having the information, or with fact-checking my claims?

Comment author: kpreid 15 November 2011 11:13:33PM *  3 points [-]

With having the information: a description of how reality (methods for drawing effectively) differs from perception (the obvious/natural way to proceed). Not a list of specific good or bad ways, but what makes the good unintuitive. Mathematical-metaphorically, the axioms from which one could derive the right approach and technique with sufficient consideration.

—I think the above may be overconstraining. How about: The information to convert a layman’s unknown-unknowns into known-unknowns.

Comment author: Raemon 16 November 2011 12:08:50AM 0 points [-]

Huh. That's a higher level I planned for, but it's an interesting question. I'll see if I can answer it. (The short answer is that laymen took thousands of years periodically trying random things and checking against reality and human emotional response to work out the techniques we have today. )

Comment author: MixedNuts 15 November 2011 09:52:39PM 0 points [-]

I think kpreid is requesting a list of bad habits, but not requesting that you write one up if you weren't planning to and have a link handy.

Comment author: Raemon 15 November 2011 10:01:42PM *  0 points [-]

I was definitely planning to talk about them extensively, so if that's the concern e needn't worry.