wedrifid comments on The curse of identity - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 26 July 2012 07:11:51PM 3 points [-]

Meh. The goal of leading to sentient beings living, to people being happy, to individuals having the freedom to control their own lives, to minds exploring new territory instead of falling into infinite loops, to the universe having a richness and complexity to it that goes beyond pebble heaps, etc. has probably much more Kolmogorov complexity than the goal of maximizing the number of paperclips in the universe. If preferring the former is irrational, I am irrational and proud of it.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 26 July 2012 08:39:53PM -1 points [-]

Oh, also "look at the optimization targets of the processes that created the process that is me" is a short program, much shorter than needed to specify paperclip maximization, though it's somewhat tricky because all that is modulo the symbol grounding problem. And that's only half a meta level up, you can make it more elegant (shorter) than that.

Comment author: nshepperd 27 July 2012 12:38:52AM 0 points [-]

Optimization processes (mainly stupid ones such as evolution) can create subprocesses with different goals.

Comment author: wedrifid 27 July 2012 02:12:21AM 2 points [-]

Optimization processes (mainly stupid ones such as evolution) can create subprocesses with different goals.

(And stupid ones like humans.)

Comment author: nshepperd 27 July 2012 06:21:08AM 0 points [-]

(Unfortunately.)