Tetronian comments on Communicating rationality to the public: Julia Galef's "The Straw Vulcan" - Less Wrong

21 Post author: lukeprog 25 November 2011 10:57PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 26 November 2011 12:28:55AM 3 points [-]

Excellent!

My favorite insight from the talk: When people say "you're being too rational," they mean "you're using too much System 2 thinking."

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 26 November 2011 08:58:02AM *  3 points [-]

The problem is that they are ignoring the data produced by System 1 thinking, which they wouldn't, had they used a bit more (well-informed) System 2 thinking (deliberate rationality), or trained System 1 to recognize better when it has a chance of directly producing useful judgments.

Comment author: [deleted] 26 November 2011 04:10:09PM *  1 point [-]

I agree that this is the most common form of the mistake, but I think people would say "you're being too rational" even if you did incorporate data from System 1 thinking. I suspect what triggers the "you're too rational" response is the duration of one's System 2 thinking: Spending more than the normal amount of time doing System 2 thinking is what sets off the Spock alarm. Relevant xkcd.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 26 November 2011 04:12:44PM *  3 points [-]

You can also come to weird conclusions, and people would say things like "This isn't what normal people do [in this situation]!" But taking entirely too long to decide is actually an error, as Julia pointed out.

(I see that I missed your point.)