FAWS comments on A response to "Torture vs. Dustspeck": The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Manfred 30 November 2011 05:23:24AM 6 points [-]

and this violates the principle of individual self-determination -

To select 3^^^3 people to get dust specks in their eyes also violates the "principle" of individual self-determination. And if 3^^^3 people are possible, 3^^^^3 people are probably possible too, so the idea of fairness doesn't apply - these people have all been picked out to have their individual self-determination violated.

In general you seem to be trying to wriggle out of the hypothetical as stated by bringing in extra stuff and then deciding based only on that extra stuff.

Comment author: FAWS 30 November 2011 06:23:35PM 0 points [-]

And if 3^^^3 people are possible, 3^^^^3 people are probably possible too,

No, that doesn't follow at all. It's ridiculous to even compare the two numbers that way. I would agree that 3^^^4 people might seem somewhat plausible in that case, and 3^^^4 is already larger than 3^^^3 by a factor incomprehensibly greater than 3^^^3. Even 3^^^4 is probably already far excessive for what you need for your argument.