baiter comments on Rationality Quotes December 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: baiter 01 December 2011 10:34:19PM 19 points [-]

God created the Earth, but the Dutch created the Netherlands.

-- Dutch proverb

Comment author: Ezekiel 01 December 2011 11:01:52PM 3 points [-]

Can someone please explain this one to me? I'm just getting "living things shape their environment", which while inspirational doesn't have much to do with rationality.

Comment author: PhilosophyTutor 01 December 2011 11:18:22PM 6 points [-]

It looks to me like a more pacifistic version of "God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal". Which could be taken to mean "faith might have its place, but science and hard work are what solve problems". Both proverbs are open to other interpretations of course.

Comment author: SilasBarta 01 December 2011 11:14:14PM 16 points [-]

Possibly it's making a subtle equivocation between "earth" and "land", that is, the Dutch obtained a lot of what is now the Netherlands by extracting underwater land from the sea (or used to, something like that). It's not just saying that the Dutch "created their nation" in the sense of laws and whatnot, but actually "made" the land for it.

My guess, anyway.

Comment author: MixedNuts 01 December 2011 11:19:12PM 2 points [-]

That's the interpretation given in this French children's book, where I first encountered the proverb.

Comment author: bbleeker 02 December 2011 11:11:44AM 13 points [-]

That's also how this Dutchwoman interprets it. But of course, while it literally refers to the creation of polders, the figurative meaning is 'faith might have its place, but science and hard work are what solve problems', like PhilosophyTutor said. (With a little bit of 'Gee, aren't we Dutch GREAT?' thrown in. ;p)