Eugine_Nier comments on Rationality Quotes December 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 December 2011 05:27:33AM 9 points [-]

I have a policy of down-voting quotes that are simply anti-religious cheering.

Comment author: Cthulhoo 06 December 2011 09:46:43AM 2 points [-]

Thank you for sharing your reasons.

I was seeing more than militant atheism in this song. I thought that a more general message could be taken from it: use the strength of your reason, don't believe what other people tell you by faith, life isn't fair and we have to actively make it better. I'm still seeing all of this, to be honest, but at this point I have to admit the possibility that I'm biased, and my positive feelings about the music are conditioning me to see more in the text than what's really in it.

Comment author: MixedNuts 12 December 2011 02:38:43PM *  1 point [-]

But that's a bad message! When told "think for yourself", people just ignore the experts and make stuff up and end up worse off.

...plus, No voices in the sky is way better.

Comment author: Cthulhoo 12 December 2011 03:01:42PM 0 points [-]

...plus, No voices in the sky is way better.

Yes, probably, I just happened to be listening to Kiss of Death at the time :)

But that's a bad message! When told "think for yourself", people just ignore the experts and make stuff up and end up worse off.

Well, if you really think for yourself, then it's not a bad advice*. This of course doesn't mean "disregard all the experts' opinions, ignore all evidence and come up with whatever conclusion you like more", which probably is how most people interpret the sentence, I have to admit.

*Assuming that losing the time to do that doesn't return negative utility. Ok, I have to concede that the issue requires a more delicate treatment.