kateblu comments on Rationality Quotes December 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 06 December 2011 02:53:14PM *  14 points [-]

Factually false. The Openness personality trait, and creativity in general, is linked with mental issues like schizophrenia (see also Spent 2011), while the only investigation I currently am aware of for mathematicians does not find any noticeable increase for 48 prominent modern logicians (including Godel): http://blog.computationalcomplexity.org/2011/07/disproofing-myth-that-many-early.html

(I will note I am not surprised in the least that the quote comes from Chesterton.)

Comment author: kateblu 07 December 2011 03:14:55AM -2 points [-]

Is 48 a statistically significant sample? Seriously, I do not take this quotation as factually correct. I am intrigued by the idea of logic set against imagination as I don't view them as necessarily opposing attributes. I am also amused at the idea of dividing the world into (a) poets and other creative artists and (b) chess players, mathematicians and cashiers. When I am amused I like to share - and I thought that was the point of this particular thread.

Comment author: gwern 07 December 2011 03:22:41AM 3 points [-]

Statistically significant? Well, I've seen psychology studies published with smaller Ns... The point is that that is way more solid evidence than the usual litany of anecdotage which is adduced as evidence for that thesis, which is rarely meant metaphorically. Usually when one sees someone remark about mathematicians and madness, they mean it quite literally. I have no reason to think Chesterton, that old contrarian Catholic, meant it any differently.