Laoch comments on "Ray Kurzweil and Uploading: Just Say No!", Nick Agar - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Laoch 12 August 2013 10:40:21AM -2 points [-]

A simulation of X is not X.

Comment author: gwern 12 August 2013 02:07:39PM 0 points [-]

That's not a reply to his point.

Comment author: Laoch 13 August 2013 10:25:56AM *  0 points [-]

That's because I don't understand his point? I'd wager though that it implies that simulations of a mind are themselves minds with subjective experience. In which case we'd have problems.

Comment author: gwern 13 August 2013 02:58:26PM 2 points [-]

That's because I don't understand his point?

Then you should be asking him more questions, not replying with dogma which begs the question; for example, is a 'simulation' of arithmetic also arithmetic? Then your formula would have been refuted.

Comment author: Laoch 02 December 2013 09:18:13AM 0 points [-]

Bump.

Comment author: Laoch 15 August 2013 11:23:31AM 0 points [-]

What's a simulation of arithmetic except just arithmetic? In any case PrometheanFaun what does "approximate identity-focal body simulation" mean?

Comment author: Laoch 02 December 2013 09:18:04AM 0 points [-]

Accidently retracted:

What's a simulation of arithmetic except just arithmetic? In any case PrometheanFaun what does "approximate identity-focal body simulation" mean?