army1987 comments on 2011 Survey Results - Less Wrong

94 Post author: Yvain 05 December 2011 10:49AM

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Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 05 December 2011 04:40:31PM *  5 points [-]

People will mess up the log-odds, though. Non-log odds seem safer.

Odds of ...

Someone living today living for over 1000 subjectively experienced years : No one living today living for over 1000 subjectively experienced years

[ ] : [ ]

Two fields instead of one, but it seems cleaner than any of the other alternatives.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 December 2011 06:41:35PM *  4 points [-]

The point is not having to type lots of zeros (or of nines) with extreme probabilities (so that people won't weasel out and use ‘epsilon’); having to type 1:999999999999999 is no improvement over having to type 0.000000000000001.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 05 December 2011 09:37:33PM 1 point [-]

Is such precision meaningful? At least for me personally, 0.1% is about as low as I can meaningfully go - I can't really discriminate between me having an estimate of 0.1%, 0.001%, or 0.0000000000001%.

Comment author: dlthomas 05 December 2011 09:41:05PM 14 points [-]

I expect this is incorrect.

Specifically, I would guess that you can distinguish the strength of your belief that a lottery ticket you might purchase will win the jackpot from one in a thousand (a.k.a. 0.1%). Am I mistaken?

Comment author: MBlume 16 December 2011 02:14:03AM *  2 points [-]

That's a very special case -- in the case of the lottery, it is actually possible-in-principle to enumerate BIG_NUMBER equally likely mutually-exclusive outcomes. Same with getting the works of shakespeare out of your random number generator. The things under discussion don't have that quality.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 06 December 2011 10:07:17AM 2 points [-]

You're right, good point.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 December 2011 11:31:56AM *  1 point [-]

I agree in principle, but on the other hand the questions on the survey are nowhere as easy as "what's the probability of winning such-and-such lottery".

Comment author: Emile 05 December 2011 08:24:00PM *  0 points [-]

Just type 1:1e15 (or 1e-15 if you don't want odd ratios).