Konkvistador comments on 2011 Survey Results - Less Wrong

94 Post author: Yvain 05 December 2011 10:49AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 08 December 2011 08:24:16AM *  1 point [-]

Individuals who cooperate with such a population are fools.

But sometimes it works out anyway. Lots of people can be fools. And lots of people can dislike those who aren't fools.

People often think "well if everyone did X sufficiently unpleasant thing would happen, therefore I won't do it". They also implicitly believe, though they may not state "most people are like me in this regard". They will also say with their facial expressions and actions though not words "people who argue against this are mean and selfish".

In other words I just described a high trust society. I'm actually pretty sure if you live in Switzerland you could successfully cooperate with the Swiss on global warming for example. Too bad global warming isn't just a Swiss problem.

Comment author: wedrifid 08 December 2011 08:32:23AM 0 points [-]

And lots of people can dislike those who aren't fools.

Compliance with norms so as to avoid punishment is a whole different issue. And obviously if you willfully defy the will of the tribe when you know that the punishment exceeds the benefit to yourself then you are the fool and the compliant guy is not.

They will also say with their facial expressions and actions though not words "people who argue against this are mean and selfish".

Of course they will. That's why we invented lying! I'm in agreement with all you've been saying about hypocrisy in the surrounding context.