gwern comments on Value evolution - Less Wrong

14 Post author: PhilGoetz 08 December 2011 11:47PM

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Comment author: gwern 09 December 2011 06:02:58PM 2 points [-]

Does it? It is true Pinker spent a lot of time on trying to compare death-rates with hunter-gatherers, but it's not obvious that the comparison is that favorable for early empires (as opposed to modern civilizations) and I believe he also discusses ways in which people were worse off due to formation of states, such as poorer nutrition, taxation, and massively organized warfare. (It's a very big book and he covers a lot of nuances.)

Comment author: [deleted] 09 December 2011 07:39:18PM *  1 point [-]

Do you recommend his book? I watched his Edge talk anticipating at least a little insight into whether lessened violence is actually extremely temporary (e.g. ending within this century), but he didn't speculate that way.

Comment author: gwern 09 December 2011 07:49:30PM 0 points [-]