My reaction: 1) Sees these techniques are highly unpleasant and/or dangerous. 2) Starts coming up with a suggestion on what to do instead. 3) Sees the thing I were going to suggest was highly unpleasant and/or dangerous. 4) Tries to come up with something else. 5) repeat 3 and 4 like 5 times. 6) Largeish futility-related emotional reaction. 7) Establish ugh field and leaves you with just this post.