Vladimir_Nesov comments on Whining-Based Communities - Less Wrong

59 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 07 April 2009 08:31PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 07 April 2009 11:07:07PM 4 points [-]

I would offer that rationality is not a winning strategy, it is a meta-strategy for identifying winning strategies.

You have just passed the recursive buck. Identifying winning strategies and then using them is also a winning strategy, an adaptive one, which may make it stronger. It is this strength that matters, not the ritual.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 08 April 2009 12:17:06AM 8 points [-]

That's a virtuous pass, not a vicious pass. Deriving instrumental utility on the reflective level from instrumental utility on the object level is just what we want. Defining truth on the object level by invoking a definition of truth on the meta-level would be vicious.