[LINK] High school students coerced into non-optimal philanthropy via psychological warfare

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From the article:

For someone who isn’t a fan of teen idol Justin Bieber, being forced to listen to one of his songs over and over again could be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

At Evanston Township High School this week, they called it a fund-raiser.

To motivate their fellow students to donate money for a struggling cafe/arts center popular with ETHS kids, seniors Charlotte Runzel and Jesse Chatz persuaded administrators to let them blast Bieber’s hit “Baby” over the school’s loudspeaker system at the end of each class period — and not stop playing the song until Runzel and Chatz had met their goal.

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Perhaps not surprisingly, Runzel and Chatz, who were given one week to meet their goal of $1,000 for Boocoo cafe on Church Street, were able to raise the money in just three days.

“It made me smile to look at what we can do and look at the money we are raising,” said Chatz.

Link. (Chicago Sun-Times)

I wonder if this atrocity is going to go unpunished?

From the article:

For someone who isn’t a fan of teen idol Justin Bieber, being forced to listen to one of his songs over and over again could be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

At Evanston Township High School this week, they called it a fund-raiser.

To motivate their fellow students to donate money for a struggling cafe/arts center popular with ETHS kids, seniors Charlotte Runzel and Jesse Chatz persuaded administrators to let them blast Bieber’s hit “Baby” over the school’s loudspeaker system at the end of each class period — and not stop playing the song until Runzel and Chatz had met their goal.

...

Perhaps not surprisingly, Runzel and Chatz, who were given one week to meet their goal of $1,000 for Boocoo cafe on Church Street, were able to raise the money in just three days.

“It made me smile to look at what we can do and look at the money we are raising,” said Chatz.

Link. (Chicago Sun-Times)

I wonder if this atrocity is going to go unpunished?

I don't know if you are minority on that. Depending what you mean I guess. If it looks like coercion without the part about helping you overcome akrasia (as this bieber example does), then that's no good.

What do you think about, say, teaching people rationality skills without them asking for it?

In general, what is a borderline acceptable example for "I'm not coercing you, I'm just..."?

What do you think about, say, teaching people rationality skills without them asking for it?

Depends on how you did it. Did you strap them to a chair, tape their eyelids open, force them to watch instructional videos?

Or did you write a story that people want to read, let's say about Harry Potter, that includes lessons on rationality?

In general, what is a borderline acceptable example for "I'm not coercing you, I'm just [helping you correct for your]..."?

People coerce people all the time. I don't think it is avoidable, but let's not go into ... (read more)

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