DanielLC comments on Inverse p-zombies: the other direction in the Hard Problem of Consciousness - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanielLC 19 December 2011 02:46:39AM 3 points [-]

I suggest a better proof-of-concept.

Lock someone in a box that has a monitor or some other method of talking to them, but no method of them talking to the rest of the world. They are presumably still conscious, but it would be impossible for the rest of the world to tell.

One way to do this would be to drop them in a black hole. Once they pass the event horizon, they cannot communicate with you, but you can still communicate with them, at least for a little while.

Another example is the universe as a whole. It has no input or output. How could it? Where would they lead? It still has conscious beings.

Comment author: wedrifid 19 December 2011 07:17:53AM *  0 points [-]

Another example is the universe as a whole. It has no input or output. How could it? Where would they lead?

Like this.

Comment author: DanielLC 19 December 2011 06:30:46PM 3 points [-]

I mean the entire universe, not just the part we see. If we're in a simulation, the universe would include the computer the simulation is running on, along with everything else.

Comment author: cousin_it 19 December 2011 03:47:05PM 3 points [-]

I thought the link would lead to this.