I don't think you can have any kind of "rule" without that inplying some kind of "logic". And if you have any "rule" that allow "rules" to "interact", there would be some kind of "set of patterns wich follow from the rules". Whatever those really mean.

I mean, I don't see how you could have anything other than absolutely random noise without having some kind of "rule" or "set of rules" that govern whatever there is. Actually, I can't imagine how would the absence of "rules" be. Is there some kind of "stuff" which the rules "rule"? Or the structure of rules is all that exists? (From what I heard, Tegmark's Ultimate Ensemble relies on that idea?) If that is the case, does it make sense to ask "what if nothing existed"?

I'm essentially confused about this, but I can't see a way to throw Platonia away. I do think maybe we live in Platonia, if we are the very structure of rules, instead of some "stuff" the rules "rule".

I guess I didn't make much sense.