AlexMennen comments on Just another day in utopia - Less Wrong

78 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 25 December 2011 09:37AM

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Comment author: AlexMennen 25 December 2011 01:00:42AM 10 points [-]

This scenario seems a bit hard on Ted. Great story, though.

Comment author: [deleted] 25 December 2011 07:12:23PM 1 point [-]

Yes, it should be somehow made clear that Ted's OK with Ishtar having sex with other people, at least.

Comment author: AlexMennen 26 December 2011 12:01:13AM 12 points [-]

Actually, I was referring to the fact that Ted won't be able to see his girlfriend again if she fails because she wanted her adventures to have real-life consequences.

Comment author: Baughn 28 December 2011 09:23:54PM 6 points [-]

Ishtar decided that her adventures should have real consequences; Ted decided to follow a code of honor that made keeping him away from her possible.

If he hadn't, the Machines would presumably have found something else to use for stakes.

Comment author: thomblake 27 December 2011 08:45:52PM 3 points [-]

Though he feels honor-bound because feeling that way is important to him, not because he would actually have to follow that requirement.

Comment author: dlthomas 27 December 2011 08:48:30PM 1 point [-]

And he wouldn't necessarily have feel bad about not seeing her, depending on the settings he's chosen.

Comment author: Alicorn 25 December 2011 10:06:58PM *  12 points [-]

It's stated that she broke up with the last guy because he wanted to be monogamous and it would follow that the current guy probably doesn't want that.

Comment author: [deleted] 26 December 2011 11:00:59AM *  4 points [-]

I had interpreted “his need for monogamy” as the need for him to be monogamous, but now I realize that a relationship where you commit to not have sex with other people but your partner doesn't is pretty unlikely (ETA: and even so, it would be unlikely to make Ishtar want to break up with Albert), and so Albert needed both to be monogamous.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 26 December 2011 03:16:23PM 10 points [-]

One-sided monogamous relationships aren't all that uncommon; I know of several. As with a lot of non-standard practices involving monogamy, couples who practice it often don't tell their friends and family about it. (Also, individuals who practice it often don't tell their partners about it, but culturally we tend to put that in a different category.)

Comment author: wedrifid 26 December 2011 11:40:24AM 4 points [-]

I had interpreted “his need for monogamy” as the need for him to be monogamous, but now I realize that a relationship where you commit to not have sex with other people but your partner doesn't is pretty unlikely

At least, it is in our particular culture.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 26 December 2011 11:18:10AM 0 points [-]

Divergent sexual/relationship desires are things that are explicitly not solved in this world. That said, Ted seems pretty fine with everything here.