Stuart_Armstrong comments on Just another day in utopia - Less Wrong

78 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 25 December 2011 09:37AM

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 29 December 2011 08:26:50AM 3 points [-]

Also known as fun.

Comment author: Baughn 29 December 2011 10:29:37PM 1 point [-]

Efficiency in fun-creation.

Efficiency in doing something that doesn't match my utility function seems.. fairly pointless, really. An abuse of the word, even.

Comment author: Multiheaded 17 January 2012 01:58:54PM 3 points [-]

Yet the horror is that it's what you might catch yourself worshiping down the line, forgetting to enjoy any of it. Just take a look at the miserable and aimless workaholics out there, if they can still handle whatever it is they're doing, their boss will happily exploit them. Do you think your brain would care more about you if you set "efficiency" as its watchword?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 17 January 2012 03:23:23PM 0 points [-]

Yup, if we set out to build a system that maximized our ability to enjoy life, and we ended up with a system in which we didn't enjoy life, that would be a failure.

If we set out to build a system with some other goal, or with no particular goal in mind at all, and we ended up with a system in which we didn't enjoy life, that's more complicated... but at the very least, it's not an ideal win condition. (It also describes the real world pretty accurately.)

I'm curious: do you have a vision of a win condition that you would endorse?

Comment author: Multiheaded 17 January 2012 04:46:58PM 0 points [-]