Luke_A_Somers comments on Just another day in utopia - Less Wrong

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Comment author: kilobug 10 January 2012 03:36:45PM 9 points [-]

Nice story, but I feel very uncomfortable about the Stradivarius part. That (and to a lesser extent, the way Ted is treated) makes me feel more that it is an utopia for Ishtar, not for humanity as a whole. I don't see how, funtheorically speaking, the potential lost of one of the last Stradivarii and of the hope of duplicating them, allowing for increased musical enjoyment for all humans and all to-be-born humans, can be lower than the slightly higher thrill for a one-day aventure of Ishtar.

Something like "if you chose to sacrifice the Stradivarius, you won't ever be able to hear it, but the rest of humanity still will" would feel much more appropriate to me. But I really don't see an utopia in which, for a bit more of fun of a single person, the whole humanity will lose something like one of the last Stardivarii.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 08 February 2013 03:11:33PM 0 points [-]

Isn't the point of a heroic adventure usually to not comply with options that the villian presents you with? You're assuming that Nero 2 wins, or even has a significant chance to win.

Comment author: Desrtopa 08 February 2013 03:21:07PM 1 point [-]

If Nero 2 doesn't have a significant chance to win, I think that would largely defeat the purpose of the adventure. There's not much tension if you consider your success a foregone conclusion.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 08 February 2013 07:45:44PM 0 points [-]

True, though this environment involves a significant element of faking/limiting dangers.

If this environment permitted high-excitement people to destroy historical artifacts on a regular basis, there wouldn't be any left after an alarmingly short period.