Kevin comments on New Year's Prediction Thread (2012) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kevin 04 January 2012 11:51:36AM *  2 points [-]

I will place in the top 5 for the Quantified Health Prize (either by myself or as part of a team), conditional on me submitting an entry that took me at least 40 hours of work: 95%

Comment author: adamisom 12 January 2012 05:32:42AM 1 point [-]

You may have just decreased your prior likelihood given that one of us may have read that and thought hmm, if it's relatively not a ton of work, maybe it's more worth giving a shot.

Just putting that out there. 95%, huh? Would you be willing to make a bet?

Comment author: Kevin 14 January 2012 11:45:54AM 1 point [-]

Also, more likely than people reading this and going on to make a submission is that people read that, think that, try giving it a shot and then give up in disgust because nutrition is not actually a science, it's just a field where scientists pretend they are doing science. The literature is somewhere between awful and useless. I think Personalized Medicine is going to be disappointed in the results of the contest because it's so hard to make conclusions as evidence backed as would seem likely before digging into the literature.

Comment author: Kevin 12 January 2012 05:37:48AM *  0 points [-]

No, I'm disinclined from taking bets at 20:1 odds no matter what my confidence. However, I'd take a 1:1 bet on me (or my team) winning first prize.

Comment author: D_Alex 16 January 2012 08:26:27AM 2 points [-]

I'll take that bet, conditional on your removing the "at least 40 hours" provision.

I'll take the bet because I want to encourage you to actually put in a good submission... I prefer the bet amount to be symbolic rather than substantial. I offer "the Groupon deal for dinner for two in the city of your residence", provided there is such a thing in the place where you live.

Are we on?

Comment author: Kevin 16 January 2012 11:51:56AM *  1 point [-]

Sure. Let's just call it $25, since Groupon for my local area only has deals for towns 10 miles away.

I submitted what I think is a great entry, that took me around 100 hours of work + 20 hours from a partner. It's over 9000 words.

[Your bet would have been more usefully motivating if proposed before the paper was due]

Comment author: D_Alex 17 January 2012 04:08:36AM 0 points [-]

Good to hear, and good luck (to the extent that luck is in fact involved...).

[Your bet would have been more usefully motivating if proposed before the paper was due]

On reflection... you already had $5000 to aim for. So now the stakes are up by, heh, 1%.

Comment author: gwern 24 January 2012 03:46:05AM 0 points [-]
Comment author: Kevin 24 January 2012 05:13:22AM *  0 points [-]

Yup, fulfilled the conditional. I also almost made that prediction read that I or my team will get 1st place with 70% probability but didn't want to make that signal before people submitted. So I'll make it now.

I predict that I or my team will win (1st place) for the Quantified Health Prize. (70%)

Comment author: gwern 24 January 2012 07:24:14PM 0 points [-]