wedrifid comments on Rationality quotes January 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 03 January 2012 09:30:39AM 2 points [-]

Trust in me, just in me.

No? You don't even try to be trustworthy here!

Comment author: Will_Newsome 03 January 2012 09:38:10AM *  -2 points [-]

Of course I do. I barely ever lie here in the morally relevant sense of the word lie. I'm not even sure if I've ever purposefully lied here. That would be pretty out-of-character for me.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 January 2012 06:55:12PM 5 points [-]

Of course I do.

The evaluation of whether it is sensible to "trust in you, only you" isn't based only on whether you are lying. When you aren't even trying to communicate on the object level the interpretation of your words consists of creating a probability distribution over possible meanings vaguely related to the words that could correspond to what you are thinking. I can't trust noisy data, even if it is sincere noisy data. I mean, given the sentence "Trust in me, just in me" I only had 60% confidence that you meant "I attest that the next sentence is veritable" (more now that you are talking about how you never lie).

I barely ever lie here in the morally relevant sense of the word lie. I'm not even sure if I've ever purposefully lied here. That would be pretty out-of-character for me.

Trustworthiness isn't just a moral question. Choosing what to trust is a practical question.

For what it is worth of course I believe that you are likely experiencing karmassassination. I noticed that some of your non-downvote-worthy comments are taking a hit.

Even without voting buttons on profile pages. Crazy.

It takes the assassin a few more clicks. But if they want to assassinate I don't expect that it would stop them. Actually that feature removal is just damn annoying. I often read through the comments of users that I like/respect/find-interesting. Naturally I'm even more likely to want to vote up comments from such a stream than I am when reading the general recent comments stream. So now I have to go and open up each comment specifically and vote it up.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 04 January 2012 01:16:49AM 0 points [-]

Upvoted, good point re noise and trust.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 04 January 2012 01:18:10AM 0 points [-]

I'm so glad that "re" is a word.