Jayson_Virissimo comments on Rationality quotes January 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: summerstay 03 January 2012 01:26:22PM *  7 points [-]

Summa Theologica is a good example of what happens when you have an excellent deductive system (Aquinas was great at syllogisms) and flawed axioms (a literal interpretation of the Bible).

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 03 January 2012 02:19:27PM *  5 points [-]

Summa Theologica is a good example of what happens when you have an excellent deductive system (Aquinas was great at syllogisms) and flawed axioms (a literal interpretation of the Bible).

Aquinas probably meant something different by "literal interpretation" than you think. For instance, I'm pretty sure he agreed with Augustine that the six days of creation were not literally six periods of 24 hours.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 07 January 2012 02:08:43AM 4 points [-]

For instance, I'm pretty sure he agreed with Augustine that the six days of creation were not literally six periods of 24 hours.

Out of curiosity, where did Augustine say that? It's interesting that anyone bothered doubting that the six days were literal before the literal interpretation became embarrassingly inconsistent with established science.

Comment author: Ezekiel 15 January 2012 11:59:06PM 3 points [-]

The first three "days" happened before the sun and moon were created, so a literal interpretation was problematic even then.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 January 2012 12:17:48AM 3 points [-]

Eh, there's an easy hack around that: God already knew what the length of a day was before it created the sun and the moon.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 23 January 2012 05:11:13AM 0 points [-]

The literalness or otherwise of the description wasn't really a issue of major debate one way or the other until there was a strong alternative hypothesis. Theres no political or signalling benefit to supporting a bizarre position when you have nothing to compare it too.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 23 January 2012 02:13:15PM 0 points [-]

Yes. So, the question is, Which alternative hypotheses were on the table before Darwin, and why were they considered compelling?