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Oh fine: http://predictionbook.com/predictions/5124 But you'd better ask him now!
I was already aware of the quote. It's on James and Lily's tombstone (in canon).
I see; but the predictions/questions wasn't were you aware of it at all, but were you planning to incorporate it ex ante, and did you ex post.
If it's incorporated it will have been planned beforehand.
You and your silly hatred of spoilers. (The recent experimental evidence, BTW, suggests spoilers are not harmful but helpful for enjoyment.) But I guess that statement works.
For what it's worth, there are stories where I've appreciated going in with no knowledge except for some reason to think I'd like it (the movie Hugo 3D is a recent example, for Mieville's Un Lun Dun I just had a reasonable guess about genre).
I think I lost some of the impact of A Deepness in the Sky because I knew what Focus was before I started reading.
I think whether spoilers are harmful varies among works and among readers. (For example, ‘finding out how it ends’ was the only reason why I finished reading Digital Fortress by Dan Brown rather than throwing it in the garbage bin right after the first couple chapters; if I had already known the ending I would likely not have enjoyed it at all (except possibly for laughing at it).)
This is an example of when spoilers are good, right? Every person saved from reading Dan Brown...
I'm confused by what this is an example of.
Had you known how it ended, would you have finished reading the book? If so, why? If not, how would that have been harmful?
1) Probably not; 2) that would have taken away from me the enjoyment of reading the book to find out the ending. (I was quite bored that day, and I didn't have my computer or my music player or anything else to do with me.)
(nods) OK, sure... if the most enjoyable thing I can do right now is read a book that isn't enjoyable to read, in order to get the enjoyment of reading the book and being surprised by its ending, then telling me the ending is harmful.
Agreed.
I have trouble imagining actually being in that state personally, but of course people vary.
If I had been thinking better I would have specified "did he know" rather than "did he plan" so that we could resolve the issue. (I think there is at least a 30% chance one (if not both) of us will have forgotten this wager by the time the reveal happens)
That's what PredictionBook is for. So far I have a good record for long-term use of it...