wedrifid comments on What Curiosity Looks Like - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 15 January 2012 06:03:34AM 1 point [-]

Why specifically compare to theft? Why not trespassing or something?

Come to think of it on the pure abstract level it is more closely analogous to rape.

Comment author: [deleted] 15 January 2012 06:06:22AM *  0 points [-]

I thot of suggesting rape, but decided against it because it seemed too far off. Explain.

Comment author: wedrifid 15 January 2012 06:42:17AM 1 point [-]

Takes the valuable resource from the victim without reducing the degree to which they have that resource or provide it to others for their own benefit.

I don't support advocating equivocation between these or any other moral or ethical issues. Because they are different and degree of abstract similarity is not important.

Comment author: Vaniver 16 January 2012 06:05:34AM 1 point [-]

Takes the valuable resource from the victim without reducing the degree to which they have that resource or provide it to others for their own benefit.

Uh, rape often reduces the degree to which one can provide sex / fertility to others. I don't think that's the best analogy.

Comment author: wedrifid 16 January 2012 06:16:33AM *  2 points [-]

Uh, rape often reduces the degree to which one can provide sex / fertility to others.

I originally included caveats (like gentleness and maybe birth control) but decided that wasn't really necessary. After all when we call copying movies 'stealing' we don't bother to include disclaimers about things like "while breaking into your house to steal your TV they destroyed your door and broke your arm when you tried to stop them".

I don't think that's the best analogy.

It quite possibly isn't - I've hardly done an exhaustive search. I expressed only a comparison to stealing.

Comment author: Anubhav 16 January 2012 04:48:42AM 0 points [-]

Takes the valuable resource from the victim without reducing the degree to which they have that resource or provide it to others for their own benefit.

What disturbs me about this model is that my mind is now telling me 'yeah, sure you can consider sex as a resource', while 100 seconds ago (right after I read the comment) it was telling me, with equal certainty, 'wtf? sex isn't a resource!!'

I ... really don't think this is a useful model.

Comment author: wedrifid 16 January 2012 05:32:41AM 3 points [-]

What disturbs me about this model is that my mind is now telling me 'yeah, sure you can consider sex as a resource', while 100 seconds ago (right after I read the comment) it was telling me, with equal certainty, 'wtf? sex isn't a resource!!'

How could you not consider sex a resource? It isn't just a resource, or merely a resource but it is one of the most significant resources out there. There are entire industries out there for the buying and selling of sex. There is an industry for capturing and selling people from whom this resource can be harvested. The most rudimentary of marketing tactics is to find ways to make other resources associate with sex in the minds of the consumer.

I ... really don't think this is a useful model.

It is one of many models useful for understanding human behavior. It need not be one that is used for describing or selecting moralities.

Comment author: Anubhav 16 January 2012 05:44:32AM 2 points [-]

How could you not consider sex a resource? It isn't just a resource, or merely a resource but it is one of the most significant resources out there.

Just a thought that had never occurred to me. However, I'm still wary of accepting this interpretation because my mind completely bought into it after just a few seconds of thinking about it. Ergo, either it's a blindingly obvious fact, as you suggest, or my mind is overfitting the data, and....

.... Who am I kidding? I've already accepted this interpretation.